Subterranean New York - Fort Totten Tunnels

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By dashingclaire

Fort Totten Officers Club
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Fort Totten Officers Club
Looking north across East River at Fort Schuyler from Little Bay Park
Looking north across East River at Fort Schuyler from Little Bay Park

Are the tunnels a myth?

Subterranean New York – The subterranean tunnel between Fort Totten, Queens, New York and Fort Schuyler, Bronx, New York has been a mystery for years. Historians, park rangers and common sense imply it is a myth. The knowledge and skill needed to build a tunnel under more than 100 feet of water, simply wasn’t present at the time, they maintain. Conjecture has been fueled by provoking clues - including dead-ending corridors and walled-up chambers in both forts. The lasting tale prompted the History Channel to run a segment on it recently.

Parts of Fort Totten are still utilized by the Department of the Army and the Coast Guard. The New York City Department of Parks and Recreation offer tours of the old fort including the dead end corridors. Fort Schuyler houses the Marine Transportation Department and the State University of New York Maritime College. When David Allen is not teaching history at SUNY Maritime College, housed in Fort Schuyler, he enjoys exploring the Throgs Neck fort's complex labyrinth of subterranean tunnels. Months ago, he discovered a channel that appears to go beneath the bay headed directly for Fort Totten. According to the NY Daily News article, SUNY Maritime Provost Joseph Hoffman saw a round, 4-foot-wide exit to what he believes was the tunnel about four years ago at the sea wall near the Fort Schuyler. After searching the area on a boat at low tide with the reporter, Allen could not find spot. The water level has risen since Allen first searched the area. It’s possible the exit is still under water even at low tide.

Fort Totten
Fort Totten
Fort Totten
Fort Totten
Disappearing gun carriage model 1896 used in many US coastal emplacements. Shown in up position for firing.
Disappearing gun carriage model 1896 used in many US coastal emplacements. Shown in up position for firing.
Fort Schuyler
Fort Schuyler

Fort Totten and Fort Schuyler

Fort Totten, Cross Island Parkway, Totten Road to 15 Road was originally planned as a by General Robert E. Lee four years before he went south and his state seceded from the Union according to the NYC Parks and Recreation Department. Plans were at first prepared by Captain Robert E. Lee in 1857, and construction of the fortification began in 1862. From 1820 – 1860 the fort was part of third system of fortifications. By the 1830's, construction started on the Third System. The latest masonry fortification concepts were employed. The chief American fortress engineer was Colonel Joseph Totten. His main modernization was the Totten casemate. In the Totten design, the cannon rotated about the narrowest part of the embrasure, allowing both a smaller embrasure and a wider field of fire than prior designs. The designed called for many guns concentrated in tall thick masonry walls, with layers of low, protected-masonry walls.

Across the East River in The Bronx is Fort Schuyler. Between the Civil War and World War I, the battery at Fort Totten was used, along with Fort Schuyler, Bronx, to protect the entrance to the East River. Fort Schuyler was one of many forts built along the east coast of the United States in the aftermath of the War of 1812 as part of the seacoast defense system. It became very apparent at that time that the United States coastline was poorly defended against foreign invasion. Fort Schuyler is located on Throgs Neck on the southeastern tip of the Bronx at a point where the East River meets Long Island Sound. Fort Totten faces it on the other side of the river in Queens.

1880s Channel Tunnel Bore
1880s Channel Tunnel Bore
Albert Mathieu presented Napoleon with a scheme for a tunnel during the brief Peace of Amiens in 1802
Albert Mathieu presented Napoleon with a scheme for a tunnel during the brief Peace of Amiens in 1802
Modern undersea channel
Modern undersea channel

The Tunnels

In 1870 tunnels were constructed at Fort Totten from the torpedo magazines to the Water Battery. In 1885 US President Grover Cleveland appointed a joint military and civilian board, headed by Secretary of War William Crowninshield Endicott, named the Board of Fortifications. This was known as the Endicott period. Many new weapon structures were quickly developed. One such system was a controlled minefield system for harbor approaches. The mines were controlled detonated from observation towers at Fort Schuyler. In 1898 mine fields were a serious part of the defense, and smaller guns were also employed to protect the mine fields from minesweeping vessels at Fort Totten. The advantage of command detonation was that no gaps were required for passage of friendly shipping. According to a former student of the State University of New York Maritime College, tunnels were trenched at the sea wall to route the cables for the minefield from Fort Schuyler. The tunnels were only there to protect the cable and stopped at the sea wall. According to the individual, he found references that the entrances to the tunnel were closed when the University took over the Fort. The same type of mine system was employed at Fort Totten, but the “tunnel system” did not meet nor connect the two forts.

So do you believe there are secret tunnels connecting Fort Totten with Fort Schuyler?

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angelfrmcanada 2 years ago

Great article Claire! I lived in Brooklyn, NY back in 1979. I never heard of these tunnels. But then I stayed out of the Bronx & Queens. I might not be in twitter til later. Still recovering from the attempted hacking of my twitter acct. It wasn't that phishing spam either, cause I Never click on links. Just wanted to let you know, cause you're one of the few who would miss me :) Thanks for giving me something good to read. It helps the twitter withdrawals. ;)

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dashingclaire Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for your comment angel friend. I'll check on you later.

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creativeone59 Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks for a great hub on subterranean tunnels, very informative info. thanks for sharing. creativeone59

Rick Stricker 2 years ago

I run the Fort Totten web site and Facebook group. I lived with my family ived on Fort Totten from 1968 to 1981, and I explored pretty much every inch of the post property. I was involved in production of the Cities of the Underworld episode on the History Channel, and I've worked the the NYC Parks Department on the label plaques on some of the historic buildings.

There's no evidence of a tunnel between Schuyler and Totten. It's just someone's overactive imagination. I'm pretty sure I originated the statement that the technology of the era wouldn't support a tunnel. In fact, nobody in their right mind would consider putting a tunnel there today either.

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dashingclaire Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the update Rick. If you have anymore information or clarification, please post.

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alphonsians93 21 months ago

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dashingclaire Hub Author 21 months ago

alphonsians93 happy to provide new information. Thanks for comment.

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